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From: terry2@ihlpa.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: Apple Access II
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Date: Mon, 26-Jan-87 20:05:39 EST
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Posted: Mon Jan 26 20:05:39 1987
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In article: <8701221123.aa07104@SPARK.BRL.ARPA> <599@eneevax.UUCP>
Tim McGraw writes:

>In article <8701221123.aa07104@SPARK.BRL.ARPA> ELORANTA@BRANDEIS.BITNET writes:
> >
> >         I don't see any reason to stay away from access //.
> >         It works fine VT100 even on 9600 baud!!!
> >         I haven't had ANY troubles with it!
> >         Jussi.
> 
> I have to disagree. Apple Access // vt100 mode did things to emacs too 
> gruesome to mention here. The vt100 mode doesn't send a control-h properly,
> either. The only way I can use emacs is in the vt52 mode.

  I have to disagree!!  I use Access II on my IIC to do work on the Mainframe
systems here at Bell Labs.  I use VT100 emulation and I have no problems using
VI and EMACS on screen editors (witness this posting).  Are you sure you were
using Access II V1.1??  Version 1.0 had many bugs (if you are a registered
owner, this update is free).  And oh yes, control-h works just fine for me...
did you forget to use the open-apple key (page 166 in the Users manual)?

>                                                            File transfers,
> however, are quite reliable. It would've been nice, though, if the manual
> informed the 'average' user that Christensen protocol and xmodem are the
> same thing.

Agreed.  I could find no mention of "xmodem" protocol in the Access II users
manual.  It does give a nice high level description of Ward Christensens'
transfer protocol (xmodem).

> Dcom is much better. I will become a registered user as soon as I can get
> it to dial (AT [number] doesn't work). Are you listening, J. Hayes?

Don't know about Dcom but my Access II will autodial (using Hayes AT commands)
and then I automatically log on, using a "command" file.  I also do this
when I access GEnie and several bulletin boards.  I believe Access IIs biggest
drawback is lack of a internal text editor.  Otherwise it works great and is
reasonably priced.

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