Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!ernie.Berkeley.EDU!munson From: munson@ernie.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: TeX (Apple Payoff Blacklist...) Message-ID: <17122@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Fri, 30-Jan-87 14:26:37 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.17122 Posted: Fri Jan 30 14:26:37 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 31-Jan-87 07:48:58 EST References: <673@imsvax.UUCP> <1600@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> <653@uw-warp.UUCP> <609@tikal.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: munson@ernie.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Ethan Munson) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 34 Keywords: TeX Public Domain Xref: watmath comp.sys.ibm.pc:1280 comp.sys.mac:1047 I have lost track of who originally complained about the cost of Addison-Wesley's version of TeX, but it is to him and the other folks who complain about the high service charges/profits for public domain and free distribution programs that I wish to respond. I don't understand why you think operations like Addison-Wesley are doing something wrong when they ask a high price for a product like TeX. I can think of many reasons that $600 is a fair price, from a business standpoint. However, it's quite possible that A-W is clearing $250 a unit and laughing all the way to the bank. I think Apple has a profit margin that approaches that level on the Mac+. Personally, that doesn't bother me at all. A-W is not a public trust. They are a profit-motivated enterprise and if they make lots of profit that's good for them. If their price for TeX is too high for me, I won't buy it. I don't think they owe me a copy at the price I consider "right". Am I missing something? It seems to me that Knuth is a man of great intelligence who would have made his copyright tighter if he had wanted to prevent someone from charging prices that high. Therefore, I presume that the current situation doesn't violate his wishes. If you really want a cheaper version, you might write A-W, telling them what price you would buy it at. That probably won't do much unless you get lots of others to do the same. You could also encourage others to write cheaper versions. I guess I get a sense of moral outrage from these comments on price of software. I don't understand it because I don't think we were promised "fair" prices. Ethan Munson munson@ernie.berkeley.edu