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From: daveh@cbmvax.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Mac vs. Amiga
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Date: Thu, 29-Jan-87 16:24:26 EST
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Posted: Thu Jan 29 16:24:26 1987
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> Xref: cbmvax comp.sys.amiga:1637 comp.sys.mac:951 comp.sys.m68k:157 comp.sys.misc:245

> ST's apparently start at about $500, and an Amiga can be
> put together for $900 or so (one drive, 256K and a TV for a monitor).
> Let's arbitrarily label the price range as $500-$1000 (I assume that
> minimal Mac's can be found in that price range, also). If you can
> build a system that runs Pick-Axe for < $1000, then there's a second
> system with a real OS, even by strict definitions (well, I do know
> people who don't consider variations on Sys III & V as real OS's, but
> we'll ignore them for now).

> 	<mike

I guess I'd have to agree on this one, OS-9 68K on an ST is certainly what
I consider a real OS (as opposed to program-loader/BIOS), and actually 
from what I've seen of OS-9 it seem to fix quite a few things that UNIX
doesn't like about running in a small environment like a micro.  Even
OS-9 Level II on a CoCo I'd have to conceed as a real OS.  Is there one
for a Mac?  The only problem with all of these is that they are add-ons,
not supplied by the vendors of the machines in question.  Which means
that, for the most part, there will be little or no commercial support
for the real OS; everything will be written to run with the program
loader.  Now if you could run TOS in a OS-9 window (port X-Windows or
something) on an ST, I might take a second look at the machine.  A Sys
III or Sys V implementation would be real nice, providing you've got
hardware powerful enough to run it at any decent speed (like, an MMU
at least).  


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