Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois From: dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: LaserWriter Plus Fonts (answer) Message-ID: <935@uwmacc.UUCP> Date: Fri, 23-Jan-87 16:25:44 EST Article-I.D.: uwmacc.935 Posted: Fri Jan 23 16:25:44 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Jan-87 05:39:16 EST Organization: Flat Egg Software, Ltd. Lines: 54 The net comes through again. Thanks *very much* to all the people who dug out FEdit, ResEdit, looked through their documentation, and so forth. For others who may be interested, here's a summary of the information. By the way, my query asked about the LaserWriter II. What a dope. I should have said LaserWriter Plus. Real font name Mac FOND name Font Resource id of ID point size 0 ITC Zapf Dingbats Zapf Dingbats 13 1664 ITC Bookman Bookman 14 1792 Helvetica Narrow N Helvetica Narrow 15 1920 Palatino Palatino 16 2048 ITC Zapf Chancery Zapf Chancery 18 2304 ITC Avant Garde Avant Garde 33 4224 New Century Schoolbook New Century Schlbk 34 4352 Helvetica, Times, Palatino, and New Century Schoolbook are trademarks of Allied Coporation. ITC Avant Garde, ITC Bookman, ITC Dingbats, ITC Zapf Chancery are trademarks of International Typeface Corporation. A word about the "Resource id of point size 0". You'll note that the number is always 128 * Font ID. Resource numbers of fonts are computed as (128 * Font ID) + point size, i.e., point size in bits 0-6, font number in bits 7-15 (at least for the old numbering scheme). The resource id of the font that equals 128 * Font ID + 0 corresponds to a point size of zero, which is illegal: such a resource is used only for the font name (it's the resource name). My observations show that resources for the other point sizes are unnamed. (Note that if you open up the FONTs of a file with ResEdit, you'll get very different results if you hold the option key down than if you don't.) I'm only mentioning it because up until yesterday I didn't know it (having perused the Font Manager section of Inside Macintosh only cursorily previously), and thought someone else might like to know. I notice that several people mentioned FOND resources in their messages. I know that these are supposed to describe entire font families, but otherwise am quite in the dark about them. From my mail, I am led to speculate that the FOND resource id for a particular font family is also the Font ID for the family. Would anyone care to comment further? --- Paul DuBois UUCP: {allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois | ARPA: dubois@easter --+-- dubois@rhesus | | "Don't we have enough madmen around here already?" I Samuel 21:15