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From: jc@piaget.UUCP (John Cornelius)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: Re: Lines and columns under 4.3
Message-ID: <160@piaget.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 19-Jan-87 13:35:51 EST
Article-I.D.: piaget.160
Posted: Mon Jan 19 13:35:51 1987
Date-Received: Tue, 20-Jan-87 19:41:35 EST
References: <234@su-russell.ARPA>
Reply-To: jc@piaget.UUCP (John Cornelius, System Manager)
Organization: International Widget
Lines: 51
Keywords: rows termcap
Summary: stty rows 66

In article <234@su-russell.ARPA> goldberg@su-russell.UUCP (Jeffrey Goldberg) writes:
 >Basically my question is is there a work around to the fact that
 >under 4.3 some programs (vi and more in particular) don't inspect
 >the termcap entry to determine the number of lines or the number of
 >columns of a given terminal.
 >
 >I recently got an account on a 4.3 machine (a VAX 780) and I moved
 >some stuff over from a machine running 4.2.  What I have is my own
 >little termcap file that contains the entry for an hp9836 which I
 >found on one of the local Vaxen and works fine, and my own thing
 >which is just a 36 with 40 lines instead of 24.  This works fine on
 >the 4.2 machine, but doesn't on the 4.3 machine.  Vi and more
 >behave as if I were working on a 24 line terminal.
 >
 >Looking at the manual page for termcap on 4.3 I find under BUGS and
 >CAVEATS:
 >
 >"Lines and columns are now stored in the kernel as well as in the
 >termcap entry.  Most programs now use the kernel information
 >primarily; the information in this file is used only if the kernel
 >does not have any information."
 >
 >I don't pretend to begin to understand where the kernel gets its
 >information about these terminals, but there is no indication that
 >anyone has ever defined a terminal with the name that I give it.
 >So I don't understand how the kernel could have prior knowledge of
 >it.

The command "stty rows #" where # is the number of rows causes vi
and more to work correctly.  I believe the same is true of
columns.  The command "stty everything" will show you the current
settings.  See stty(I).

 >I do use tc extensively in my entries.  Should I just duplicate the
 >stuff in different entries instead of using tc?
 >
 >Jeff Goldberg 
 >ARPA:   goldberg@russell.stanford.edu, goldberg@csli.stanford.edu
 >UUCP:   ...!hplabs!russell.stanford.edu!goldberg
 >
 >cryptography, terrorist, DES, drugs, cipher, secret, decode,
 >NSA, CIA, NRO.
 > The above is food for the NSA line eater.  Add it to your
 > .signature and you too can help overflow the NSA's ability to
 > scan all traffic going in or out of the USA looking for
 > "significant" words.  (I am told that this is no joke.)


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John Cornelius
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