Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!clyde!cbatt!cwruecmp!rob From: rob@cwruecmp.UUCP (rob robertson) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: why learn UNIX Message-ID: <1829@cwruecmp.UUCP> Date: Fri, 16-Jan-87 00:52:48 EST Article-I.D.: cwruecmp.1829 Posted: Fri Jan 16 00:52:48 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Jan-87 00:21:35 EST References: <1993@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Reply-To: rob@cwruecmp.UUCP (rob robertson) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh, Comp & Info Sys Lines: 32 In article <1993@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> garry%cadif-oak@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu writes: >Not fair. The Unix manuals are cheap because they: > > 1) Are cryptic and obscure, > 2) Are not kept up-to-date, > 3) Contain no examples, > 4) Contain no index, > 5) Assume that you're a wizard. > >DEC publishes a number of "tutorial and self-help" books -- there aren't >the popular press books partly because the original manufacturer has acted >responsibly and published them itself. After all, would you prefer to buy >a "Guide to programming in Fortran on XXX" or "Guide to Text Editing" from >the manufacturer or from some unknown hacker author? My memories of programming on VMS consist of stuggling to balance 4-5 giant VMS orange binders of documentation. Not knowing where anything is (the index is fairly useless). Having to figure out bugs by myself. With Unix, the manual for the most part is in one complete volume. It has a permuted index (a real help). And manuals are online (your mileage may vary), good for quick lookups when the hardcopy manual is across the room. There is also a bug section in the manual to describe known bugs. With Unix, I have a less cluttered desk, easy information lookup, and I don't beat my head against the wall as much about unknown bugs in the system. As far as tutorial and self help books, with unix you have a selection some good, some bad, but with vms you have only what dec gives you. -rob