Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ut-sally!husc6!rutgers!brl-adm!brl-smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@brl-smoke.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Suspending processes (really, about how to answer questions) Message-ID: <5516@brl-smoke.ARPA> Date: Tue, 13-Jan-87 17:47:30 EST Article-I.D.: brl-smok.5516 Posted: Tue Jan 13 17:47:30 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Jan-87 00:52:33 EST References: <836@A60.UUCP> <2557@phri.UUCP> Reply-To: gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB) ) Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL), APG, MD. Lines: 33 In article <2557@phri.UUCP> roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) writes: >The comparison of the Sys5 and BSD >flavors of job control is just extra verbiage to wade through for the >novice who simply wants to know how to get his job stopped. If someone came running down the hall to ask me how to stop a job he currently has running, then an answer like "type ^Z and if that doesn't work, you're out of luck" might suffice. However, I went into more detail in order to steer the novice in the right direction. For example, on SVR2.1 or later the "shl" facility has to be invoked BEFORE the need arises. I assume that even a novice is perfectly capable of looking up "shl" in the index to his documentation to find out more about it. (If he doesn't have documentation for it, either he doesn't have the facility at all, or else he should go find some reference material; it would be folly to try to relay complete "shl" usage instructions via this newsgroup.) It also really doesn't matter much whether the term "SVR2.1" is understood, if the user now knows what to look for in his local system documentation (which is the ultimate authority on how to do things in his specific case). I'm from the "don't give a hungry man a fish; teach him how to fish" school. My experience has been that limiting answers to the obvious short, simple, direct answer often ends up encouraging people to continue with inefficient approaches to problems. Therefore I tend to err on the side of giving extra information, rather than insufficient info. The extra information about /proc was just to make people aware that there's a better way of doing things, so they can nag their salesmen for it rather than demanding BSD-style job control (for example). With enough customer demand, almost anything will eventually be provided by the vendors.