Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!mimsy!chris From: chris@mimsy.UUCP (Chris Torek) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: why learn UNIX Message-ID: <5097@mimsy.UUCP> Date: Sat, 17-Jan-87 19:12:04 EST Article-I.D.: mimsy.5097 Posted: Sat Jan 17 19:12:04 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 18-Jan-87 00:47:57 EST References: <3353@bu-cs.BU.EDU> <3700002@hpfcph.HP.COM> <4171@utah-cs.UUCP> Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Lines: 26 In article <4171@utah-cs.UUCP> cetron@utah-cs.UUCP (Edward J Cetron) writes: >... I know of now dcl shells for unix, but I know of two vms >'shells' which emulate unix (including pipes, redirection...) ... >and at least two full unix emulators (more than just the shell, >libraries, system calls, etc) for vms - has anyone yet seen a vms >emulator for unix ??? :-) It takes two things to build an emulator for another system: ability and desire. I wonder which is missing? :-) That VMS is able to emulate Unix demonstrates its flexibility. What does the fact that such emulators are used say about VMS's desirability? :-) Small serious note: I doubt Unix would be able to emulate VMS efficiently without at least some minor kernel hacks. There really *are* some good ideas in VMS. Most hardcore Unix hacker will admit this. There are also some really bad ideas. Most hardcore VMS fans will admit this. It works the other way too. Personally, I prefer Unix, but as Kirk said of the tribbles, there is no accounting for tastes. :-) -- In-Real-Life: Chris Torek, Univ of MD Comp Sci Dept (+1 301 454 7690) UUCP: seismo!mimsy!chris ARPA/CSNet: chris@mimsy.umd.edu