Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!lll-lcc!pyramid!csg From: csg@pyramid.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: BSD & Sys5 Job Control Message-ID: <1476@pyramid.UUCP> Date: Sun, 25-Jan-87 14:19:01 EST Article-I.D.: pyramid.1476 Posted: Sun Jan 25 14:19:01 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 26-Jan-87 02:08:22 EST References: <1324@cadovax.UUCP> <161@piaget.UUCP> <114@dolphy.UUCP> <3702@teddy.UUCP> Reply-To: csg@pyramid.UUCP (Carl S. Gutekunst) Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA Lines: 16 In article <3702@teddy.UUCP> jpn@teddy.UUCP (John P. Nelson) writes: >Both shl and "job control" are unnecessary if you have a true windowing >system. Both are HACKS to provide capabilities close to window systems >using dumb terminals. Not true at all. Whether I use my AT&T DMD or a Sun workstation, I won't give up BSD job control inside my windows! How much I depend on it became painfully obvious when using a pure System V workstation (which at the time didn't have shl either). The ability to stop and reorder jobs without killing them is much too useful to give up, particularly on systems with restricted resources. I do have less use for shl in the DMD windows (shl and SXT are just munged versions of layers and XT, after all), although I occasionally find it very useful for managing a large number of small tasks that produce little output.