Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!cit-vax!elroy!smeagol!earle From: earle@smeagol.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Sun's OS 3.2 `finger' (was Re: why learn UNIX) Message-ID: <797@smeagol.JPL.NASA.GOV> Date: Wed, 28-Jan-87 02:04:39 EST Article-I.D.: smeagol.797 Posted: Wed Jan 28 02:04:39 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 29-Jan-87 04:08:00 EST References: <1993@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <1035@sfsup.UUCP> <297@hscfvax.UUCP> <12057@sun.uucp> Sender: news@smeagol.JPL.NASA.GOV Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Lines: 34 In article <12057@sun.uucp>, guy%gorodish@Sun.COM (Guy Harris) writes: > > But I do wish DEC would give it a go along the same lines, with Ultrix. > > Maybe the day will come when the following line disappears from finger(1) : > > > > "The encoding of the gcos field is UCB dependent - it knows > > that an office '197MC' is '197M Cory Hall', and that '529BE' > > is '529B Evans Hall' " > > The problem here is not with the manual, the problem is with the > program; the correct fix is to take that silly localism out of the > program if it's to be distributed as part of anything more formal > than a BSD release. The code, and the comment in the manual page, > are certainly gone from *our* release. Unfortunately, whomever removed the code did it via the "slash-and-burn" method. *All* usage of the GECOS field got wiped out! Personally, every one that I have talked to can't understand why Sun changed the last field of the finger output to `Where', and only uses it to display remote hostnames for users logged in remotely. We don't care about the Berkeley localisms, either, but having the last field be `Office', displaying office location and office phone (like BSD) seems much more useful, in our opinion. (I don't consider office phone/location to be useless, even in an Internet environment; one could still get an area code easily, and a main number for an organization after which one could use the office extension given by `finger') Slash-and-burn probably explains why there is no `chfn' in Sun OS 3.2, since the info isn't used. -- Greg Earle UUCP: sdcrdcf!smeagol!earle; attmail!earle JPL ARPA: elroy!smeagol!earle@csvax.caltech.edu AT&T: +1 818 354 4034 earle@jplpub1.jpl.nasa.gov (For the daring) Should I start with the time I SWITCHED personalities with a BEATNIK hair stylist or my failure to refer five TEENAGERS to a good OCULIST?