Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!ZERMATT.LCS.MIT.EDU!RWS From: RWS@ZERMATT.LCS.MIT.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: Short paper comparing X with NeWS Message-ID: <870210082918.3.RWS@KILLINGTON.LCS.MIT.EDU> Date: Tue, 10-Feb-87 08:29:00 EST Article-I.D.: KILLINGT.870210082918.3.RWS Posted: Tue Feb 10 08:29:00 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Feb-87 07:45:27 EST References: <2479@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 40 From: jade!lapis.berkeley.edu!oster@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (David Phillip Oster) ... using the following (idiotic) argument: Now, now, let's be polite... 2.) SInce you CAN do this in NEWS, the author of the paper assumes your MUST do this. I never said this. 3.) You cannot do it in X. (The prootocol is low level, and has no extension language.) X is extensible, and one could certainly define a (reasonable) extension language if it seemed desirable. 4.) The author shows that there are situations where it is not appropriate to extend the communications protocol. True enough. 5.) The author concludes that NEWS is bad. This conclusion would hold if (4) were common and (2) were true. Neither is the case. My conclusions were based on more than just the extension language. Good of you to ignore that fact. Also, I assume you have a laundry list of cases where an extension language is useful; perhaps you could publish them, and enlighten us. Perhaps you can tell us you have actually implemented them (both ways), and convince us as well as enlighten us. NEWS can't quite do [dynamic load balancing], I'm glad you said this. but it is a step closer to having what you need to do this than X is. Again, the fact that the X core has no extension language does not preclude defining one.