Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!HI-MULTICS.ARPA!Mandel%pco From: Mandel%pco@HI-MULTICS.ARPA.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.ai Subject: Discussion of "consciousness" Message-ID: <870113160008.186005@HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA> Date: Tue, 13-Jan-87 11:00:00 EST Article-I.D.: HIS-PHOE.870113160008.186005 Posted: Tue Jan 13 11:00:00 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 20-Jan-87 22:35:20 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Mandel%pco@HI-MULTICS.ARPA (Mark A. Mandel) Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 30 Approved: ailist@sri-stripe.arpa > I would say that if one is "conscious" of an event, then > the features/schema of that event are available to his > goal-setter/planner for planning of future behavior ( and > vice-versa ). This is true, but its (in this context) implied converse is not. Clinical psychology furnishes ample examples of goalsetting/planning that is not accessible to the person's conscious awareness in the usual ways. Q: "Why did you walk into that restaurant?" A: "No particular reason, I just suddenly felt like having a cup of coffee." Further probing by the therapist brings forth the awareness that certain circumstances of weather, recent experience, and hearing a song on the radio, all associated with an emotion-packed memory of a dead friend, had "caused" the person to attempt to reproduce an occasion on which he had met with that friend. The example is wholly fictitious, but this sort of hidden cause comes up all the time in therapy. Evidently some process in the person planned to meet the friend by going into the restaurant, although the person was not consciously aware of the plan or the conditions that had produced it; if he had been, he would certainly have recognized the impossibility of meeting someone who is dead. And if we say that he was aware of the conditions and planned consciously, but immediately forgot the entire operation, how do we explain (except by special pleading) his failure to recognize the unreality of the plan? The only solution is to accept unconscious planning. So we cannot use "subject has access to event X for purposes of planning" as a criterion for "subject is conscious of event X."