Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!NOSC.ARPA!speidel%trout From: speidel%trout@NOSC.ARPA.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.ai Subject: Discussion of "consciousness" Message-ID: <8701202357.AA10560@trout.ARPA> Date: Tue, 20-Jan-87 18:57:00 EST Article-I.D.: trout.8701202357.AA10560 Posted: Tue Jan 20 18:57:00 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 21-Jan-87 19:36:15 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 38 Approved: ailist@sri-stripe.arpa Original statement of hypothesis: If one is "conscious" of an event, then the features/schema of that event are available to his goal-setter/planner for planning of future behavior ( and vice-versa ). Further discussion: This is true, but its ( in this context ) implied converse is not. Clinical psychology furnishes ample examples of goalsetting/planning that is not accessable to the person's conscious awareness in the usual ways... So we cannot use "subject has access to event X for purposes of planning" as a criterion for "subject is conscious of event X." Suppose we were to say that the therapist's evaluations of the subjects consciousness was based on the subjects ability or inability to present the pertinent material to the therapist. Perhaps the function of communication resides elsewhere in the brain (or requires additional connections) than mere consciousness and involves another process which the subject may or may not have performed as yet, though he is nevertheless "conscious" of the material on a low level. Once the subject of therapy is prompted to "express" the material in communicable form and that process is completed (or in progress) it is the therapists subjective evaluation that the person has become "conscious" of it. In this case, the hypothesis of interest would apply to the low-level consciousness associated with an individual as opposed to an "expressed consciousness" which may be shared with other individuals. Following this tack a little further, one would associate the label "unconscious" with things like reflex, control of peristalsis, some kinds of sensory processing, etc. As an aside, the concept of shared consciousness is an intriguing one, isn't it? It could make it easier to explain how man accomplishes what he does. -------