Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!videovax.tek.com!dmc From: dmc@videovax.tek.com ("Donald M. Craig") Newsgroups: mod.computers.vax Subject: Submission for mod-computers-vax Message-ID: <8701192014.AA09976@videovax.TEK> Date: Mon, 19-Jan-87 15:14:44 EST Article-I.D.: videovax.8701192014.AA09976 Posted: Mon Jan 19 15:14:44 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 20-Jan-87 06:02:09 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 41 Approved: info-vax@sri-kl.arpa Path: videovax!dmc From: dmc@videovax.Tek.COM (Donald M. Craig) Newsgroups: mod.computers.vax Subject: Re: Mumps. Message-ID: <4164@videovax.Tek.COM> Date: 19 Jan 87 20:14:43 GMT References: <8701180320.AA19101@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Reply-To: dmc@videovax.Tek.COM (Donald M. Craig) Organization: Tektronix Television Systems, Beaverton, Oregon Lines: 30 Marty Sasaki writes: "For some reason MUMPS became popular in medical areas, but practically unheard of outside of it." Well. Almost. When I worked at the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in Montreal, there was a large dual PDP-15 based MUMPS installation that was used to schedule program material on the Radio-Canada French language television network. The system worked, and was integrated with the automated television switching and vtr/telecine control system. It predated a number of commercial (non-MUMPS) systems by several years. I also recall a field trip to the docks in Newark, New Jersey, where we watched longshoremen race brand new cars two abreast towards a ramp that would only hold one. The container inventory and management system of one of the major shippers was based on PDP-15 MUMPS. The key to MUMPS power was the global sparse array. Since it was sparse, it was essentially a linked list, and the 'global' attribute meant that it lived on the disk system, but pretty much transparently. Programmers didn't have to worry about 'access methods', and since the linked lists were implemented directly in the MUMPS 'kernel', performance was excellent, especially compared to things like COBOL. The distance from data on the disk to a formatted screen was very short with MUMPS. All that said, MUMPS is indeed a dinosaur. Fast data base applications could be created in short order by experienced programmers, but maintenance was nearly impossible, for all the reasons Marty said. -- Don Craig dmc@videovax.Tek.COM Tektronix Television Systems ... tektronix!videovax!dmc