Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!UTAH-CS.ARPA!cetron%utah-ced From: cetron%utah-ced@UTAH-CS.ARPA.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.computers.vax Subject: Re: Excelan TCP/IP Message-ID: <8701211621.AA24413@utah-ced.ARPA> Date: Wed, 21-Jan-87 11:21:18 EST Article-I.D.: utah-ced.8701211621.AA24413 Posted: Wed Jan 21 11:21:18 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 21-Jan-87 20:32:18 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 17 Approved: info-vax@sri-kl.arpa I found the best approach (which is being implemented in the tek tcp/ip by Kevin Carosso) is to use the digital supplied "please validate this user/ password" routine - loginout. If the initial FTP server simply starts up, establishes the connection and then spawns loginout to create the FTP control process, waits to establish that it successfully completed, then passes the tcp/ip connection over to the FULLY VALIDATED ( or at least as well as any other interactive process on the machine :-) process and exits.... another line of defense would be to also use loginout to create the data process and let vms right away verify whether the user has access to data, not just the system....this would allow full protection based on uic as well as (if done right) special ACL's to allow/disallow ftp access. -ed cetron center for engineering design Univ of Utah cetron%utah-ced@utah-cs.arpa cetron@utahcca.bitnet