Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!brl-adm!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!EDDIE.MIT.EDU!Love-Hounds-request From: Love-Hounds-request@EDDIE.MIT.EDU Newsgroups: mod.music.gaffa Subject: Re: All this KBS; the Anti-Chic Catechism; Breathed In? Message-ID: <8701200254.AA06598@osupyr.UUCP> Date: Mon, 19-Jan-87 21:54:37 EST Article-I.D.: osupyr.8701200254.AA06598 Posted: Mon Jan 19 21:54:37 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 20-Jan-87 22:25:15 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Love-Hounds@EDDIE.MIT.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 99 Approved: love-hounds@eddie.mit.edu Really-From: rhr@osupyr.UUCP (Robert Robinson) In article <626:andrews@cs.ubc.cdn> Love-Hounds writes: >Really-From: Jamie Andrews > >In-Reply-To: <8701131650.AA02864@osupyr.UUCP> >Organization: UBC Department of Computer Science, Vancouver, B.C., Canada > >In article <8701131650.AA02864@osupyr.UUCP> rhr@osupyr.UUCP (Robert Robinson) >writes: >> ... This "four octave range inspirational and >>totally mind blowing singing wonder" is one of the most overrated artists to >>come down the pike.... As a singer, she's marginal at best, and as a >>redefining force, nonexistant. > > Robert Robinson has succeeded in putting himself squarely in >my list of the Anti-Chic. Anti-Chic music critics follow the >following rules for evaluating artists: >- If the artists are popular, they can't like them. >- If the artists are not particularly popular, but people know about > them, they can like them. >- If the artists are SO popular that there has begun to be a backlash > against them, they can like them as part of the anti-backlash. >- If they ever claim to like a band that's been around for a while > they MUST say they like the "early" version of the band, e.g. > "early Ramones", "early Pretenders". This is to imply that they > liked them _before_ they became popular. > Quite a bit of assumption here. My tastes are not restricted to the artists I named. The only artist I said was overrated ( or anything else for that matter) was Kate Bush. > It seems clear that RHR saw all the traffic in this group and >decided that it would be a really groovy, Anti-Chic thing to do to >try to burst the bubble. I doubt that he brought much objective >critical force to bear on his analysis. That is not the reason I posted, but you probably wont believe that anyway. :-) > His Anti-Chic status was confirmed for me by the artists and >composers he listed as being interested in. For instance, for >classical composers, he _couldn't_ say Bach or Mozart or something, >because they're too well-known and popular. But he also couldn't >say rather obscure people like Faure or Scriabin, because people >might not be able to be impressed by that. So he says... > >>... my intrests run from >>Brahms, through BB King, to Butthole Surfers. I am a bass player who has played >>everything from the Dregs to the Dreaded Ones, including Dvorak. > > Perfect! Brahms and Dvorak. I suggest that everyone save >the original article as a shining example of Anti-Chic. Again with the assumption that just because I didn't mention all of my interests that I have no others. > I suggest that RHR listen to "The Dreaming" with headphones, >and if he can pass it off as "just some clever tricks with stereo >and a room simulator", well, there's no hope. Only Kate Bush can >give you the feeling that she's on either side of your head, with >her lips to each ear, breathing into your ears, and make it both >incredibly sensuous (she _does_ have nice lips, after all) and >at the same time totally other-than-sensuous as well. > Although the mixing ( yes I had heard it with headphones) was decent, and I admit some of the effects were nice, I still don't see it. Oh, by the way, twins can do the same thing :-). > I am now in imminent danger of buying the entire album of >_The Dreaming_, and possibly some other ones of hers too. This >for someone who buys maybe 3 albums per year for himself, is pretty >extravagant. > > I think I'm getting BREATHED IN... > Good luck. >--Jamie. >...!seismo!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!andrews >"Take my shoes off & throw them in the lake" -- **************************************************************************** * "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' until you can find a rock."* **************************************************************************** * Gaelan the Slightly Confused, King of the Undefined. * * Contact at (insert path here)!cbogsd!osupyr!rhr * * "Its the squeaky wheel that gets the grease, * * But its the quacking duck that gets shot" * * * * System Operator (believe it or not) @ * * OSUPYR @ Ohio State University * * Any letters will be duly read, and quickly dismissed as frivolous. * ****************************************************************************