Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!EDDIE.MIT.EDU!Love-Hounds-request From: Love-Hounds-request@EDDIE.MIT.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.music.gaffa Subject: Re: the KaTastrophic state of music in our time Message-ID: <8701210237.AA19529@MEDIA-LAB.MIT.EDU> Date: Tue, 20-Jan-87 21:37:40 EST Article-I.D.: MEDIA-LA.8701210237.AA19529 Posted: Tue Jan 20 21:37:40 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Jan-87 06:25:12 EST References: <8701210112.AA28287@EDDIE.MIT.EDU> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Love-Hounds@EDDIE.MIT.EDU Organization: MIT Media Lab, Cambridge, MA Lines: 42 Approved: love-hounds@eddie.mit.edu Summary: Try "Remain in light" Really-From: Joel Kollin From: joel@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Joel Kollin) In article <8701210112.AA28287@EDDIE.MIT.EDU>, Love-Hounds-request@EDDIE.MIT.ED> Really-From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU > > For the sake of argument (and out of a profound sense > of desperation), IED challenges anyone reading this to name ONE record > made since the early Seventies that attains a level of thematic and > musical complexity, multi-level meaning and sophisticated cohesion of > music and production comparable to that achieved by Kate Bush since 1982. > IT CANNOT BE DONE! SUCH MUSIC DOES NOT EXIST! > > I BET MY MUM'S GONNA GIVE ME A LITTLE TOY! > > -- Andrew Marvick The early seventies reference seems to indicate that the last group you put on a pedestal was the Beatles, or perhaps Pink Floyd. While their latest stuff is comparatively lame, both Davids Byrne and Bowie can be considered to be at the very least in the same league as Kate Bush in terms of lyrics and music, not to mention (over-)production. The albums produced by Brian Eno are particularly interesting, especially "Remain in Light" by the Talking Heads. In fact, I would find it hard to believe that Kate was not influenced by these artists, and probably Peter Gabriel as well. On the other hand, it seems like all of the above except Eno have sold out, and I am hard pressed to find any good music (in this vein) produced in the past few years besides KB. Well, there's Suzanne Vega, the Cocteau Twins... Wait a minute, I'm starting to see a trend here... joel kollin (joel@MEDIA-LAB.MIT.EDU) How do you use one of those .signature things, anyway? [Kate was definitely *very* influenced by The Beatles, Pink Floyd, David Bowie, Brian Eno, and Peter Gabriel. I doubt that she was much influenced by David Byrne, though. I've never seen her mention him and Talking Heads were not very well known in England until about a year ago. -- Doug]