Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!EDDIE.MIT.EDU!Love-Hounds-request From: Love-Hounds-request@EDDIE.MIT.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.music.gaffa Subject: Re: the KaTastrophic state of music in our time Message-ID: <644@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Date: Thu, 22-Jan-87 08:01:14 EST Article-I.D.: mit-amt.644 Posted: Thu Jan 22 08:01:14 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Jan-87 06:27:57 EST References: <8701212341.AA14099@udenva.UUCP> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Love-Hounds@EDDIE.MIT.EDU Organization: MIT Media Lab, Cambridge, MA Lines: 58 Approved: love-hounds@eddie.mit.edu Summary: And don't forget... Really-From: bc@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (bill coderre) In article <8701212341.AA14099@udenva.UUCP>, Love-Hounds-request@EDDIE.MIT.EDU writes: >For the sake of argument (and out of a profound sense >of desperation), IED challenges anyone reading this to name ONE record >made since the early Seventies that attains a level of thematic and >musical complexity, multi-level meaning and sophisticated cohesion of >music and production comparable to that achieved by Kate Bush since 1982. >IT CANNOT BE DONE! SUCH MUSIC DOES NOT EXIST! "Blore" regrettably forgot Brian Eno, perhaps the most obvious example. It still amazes me that whenever I find someone doing a cover of an Eno tune (serious musicians I respect, mind you, like Birdsongs of the Mesozoic), you can actually say, "Wow, what a great cover -- but Eno did this and that and the other thing which make it much superior." Eno pretty much cannot play any instruments, but knew enough about tape recorders, and had a severe case of artists' discipline, which made him produce 4+ records of the best pop music ever. (I base this on the fact that it's >10 years later, and not too much that I've heard comes close.) And don't forget the non-mainstream stuff that also just happens to be equally complex as this Miss Bush. Two immediate examples are Pere Ubu and Matching Mole. Pere Ubu's "The Modern Dance" remains brilliant like no other. Whenever I listen to it, after these thousand or so times I've heard it, it still picks me up and shakes me. Scary, enrapturing, a dark and wonderful look at things. What might now be called "deathrock" (although it has nothing to do with death or despair), it had all the noisy guitars and tapes of breaking glass years before the competition. Available on Italian (Base Records) import, good quality vinyl, $7 new or so. If you like that, then be sure to check out "Terminal Tower" which is a collection of their rarities, mostly from an impossibly out-of-print EP "Datapanik in the Year Zero". *That's* on Twin/Tone records, a pretty big label, and freshly printed. Should be easy to find. (The other Pere Ubu records are entirely different, more resembling poetry with accompaniment, so I've skipped them, even though I happen to like them.) Matching Mole has one of the most complicated name-stories in history. Several members of Soft Machine (which you should also check out) splintered off and produced "Matching Mole's Little Red Record", brilliant subversive communist mood music, with nice hooks. You catch yourself humming along, then you go "But wait! What are they saying?" then you figure it out.... Oh yeah, the name story. Well, "Soft Machine" *en Franc,ais* is "Machine Molle" <=sounds=like=> "Matching Mole." This record is readily available around Boston for $3-$4 for a good used copy. Well, I'm sorry I'm not coherent right now, but I'm sure you get the idea. Bands, for the most part, do not have their collective head up their collective posterior. They know about how to craft records, and many opt to make their sound unique. Some more than others, sure, but.... If Mr IED is filled with "desperation[sic]" at not hearing anything else as "good" as Kate Bush, perhaps he should open his ears and listen to something else. It's too bad that it's tough to find this stuff on the radio, but hey,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,bc