Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!ucbvax!LOUIE.UDEL.EDU!Mills%udel.edu From: Mills%udel.edu@LOUIE.UDEL.EDU Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Authentication (was: No more NFS flames) Message-ID: <8701092241.a029933@Huey.UDEL.EDU> Date: Fri, 9-Jan-87 22:41:46 EST Article-I.D.: Huey.8701092241.a029933 Posted: Fri Jan 9 22:41:46 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Jan-87 03:46:41 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 19 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa Phil, Yes, you're right; however, my model has rather less weight than yours. It is intended as a hotpatch that can be dropped into the code at a conenient place, not require a lot of computation (I assume it to be done in software) and to done for all UDP and TCP connections for a particular host. A perpetrator surely can take advantage of the weaknesses of the checksum algorithm whether encrypted checksums are used or not. I did not intend the simple function I suggested to fix that - I'd rather fix the checksum algorithm itself. As for the size of the checksum; well, we could always stuff it in an IP option. Every time I get going in this vein I drown in the tradeoffs, then try to remember I only need a lifevest, not a SAR team. Discussion on just how hard is hard with respect not only to your model and mine, but also with respect to distributed protocols such as gateway routing protocols and (heaven help me) network time protocols would be welcome (but not specifics with respect to the ciphers themselves). I would be glad to summarize comments sent to me at mills@huey.udel.edu. Dave