Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!MITRE.ARPA!mckee From: mckee@MITRE.ARPA.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Analyzing Acknowledgement Strategies Message-ID: <8701161826.AA07043@mitre.ARPA> Date: Fri, 16-Jan-87 14:10:14 EST Article-I.D.: mitre.8701161826.AA07043 Posted: Fri Jan 16 14:10:14 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Jan-87 01:37:01 EST References: <8701151850.AA18157@lbl-csam.arpa> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The MITRE Corp., Washington, D.C. Lines: 26 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa >ps- perhaps we should take this discussion off line? I've been > filling up peoples' mailboxes lately and I get the impression > that there are only two or three of us interested in this topic. I expect/hope many people are interested. The current MIL-STD 1777 and 1778 are incomplete; they need a section called Implementation Guidelines. The work that you, Mills, Nagle, Partridge, et al are doing will be the basis of that section. At any rate, while I can contribute little more than intense interest, please include me in your discussions. I would particularly like to hear from John Nagle on: >A quick look at some trace data suggested that there was a problem >when you resumed normal behavior after a retransmit. Since you'll >always be sending into an empty window at this point, 4.3 will blast >out 8 back-to-back packets. A couple of packets near the end of this >blast are almost certain to be dropped so you'll end up in retransmit >state 2 RTT after the previous recovery. I would offer the following comment: Packets are lost by Gateways, not PSNs. The PSNs can protect themselves against an input overload from subscribers; Gateways can only whimper Source Quench. Accordingly, we should thump on the egp-people people to "do something." Regards - Craig