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Subject: Re: PSI vs scienterrific research vs witchcraft
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Date: Mon, 12-Jan-87 09:25:08 EST
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Posted: Mon Jan 12 09:25:08 1987
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> In article <907@ulowell.UUCP> sunny@hoptoad.UUCP (Sunny Kirsten) writes:
> >Witchcraft is both a belief system (as is ANY religion) and an occult
> >art.  Both aspects of this are spiritual.
> >
> >Science is a belief system (as is ANY religion).  The scientific
> >approach to the study of paranormal, occult, metaphysical, psychic,
> >psi, extrasensory perception, or parapsychology is doomed to failure.
> >Why?  Because the religion of science is an atheistic religion, and
> >these phenomena are spiritual.
> 
>   Science is a belief system only in the strictest sense. There is one
> scientific belief: Things can be understood. It is _not_ a religion. Religion
> is based upon faith; faith that things not understandable are true. 

Science is a religion based on the belief that things which cannot be
repeatably modelled are false.

> The chief "spell" of science, the 'scientific method' is known to the rest of
> the world as 'trial and error'. It is only in the public mind that a scientist
> is a Scientist (read 'priest') of Science, the all-knowing.
> 
>   Why hasn't science been brought to bear succesfully on psi? Elementary. 
> Proper investigation of psi could take lifetimes. Your typical scientist (who
> has to eat, too) isn't willing to risk his credibility and career on something
> that far out in left field. Why is it so far out? Because scientists are all
> believed to be hopeless Mundanes (the term used by my Gifted friends) who
> couldn't understand spiritual matters if they tried. The blade cuts both ways,
> Sunny.

I am a scientist.  (Does B.S. Engineering count as scientist?)
I am a psychic healer, and will attain my Reverend title in March.
	Psychic phenomena DOES bear up to the scientific method.
I have repeatedly seen spiritual (psychic) healing techniques work in a
repeatable manner.  ANYONE who WANTS to find evidence of PSI phenomena,
can go to the Berkeley Psychic Institute ministry of the Church of
Divine Man, and see such.  You want to believe there is no evidence,
don't go there.  

 I TOO started out as a total disbeliever, following the scientific method.
 I have seen the light.
 
>   Incidentally, though it's none of my business, which particular Goddess are 
> are you referring to? Astarte? Britomartis,Rhea,Dictynna (the Triple Goddess)?
> Eris? Just idle monkey curiosity (or scientific curiosity, if you prefer)

THE Goddess (as referred to by witches) IS everything.
The divine spirit infusing EVERYTHING
That is the Goddes to which I referred.
 
	Sunny

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