Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!ucbvax!ucbcad!ames!rutgers!husc6!ut-sally!std-unix From: std-unix@ut-sally.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.std.unix Subject: Re: 1003.2 Command Groups Message-ID: <6818@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Sat, 10-Jan-87 00:24:37 EST Article-I.D.: ut-sally.6818 Posted: Sat Jan 10 00:24:37 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Jan-87 19:36:45 EST References: <6710@ut-sally.UUCP> <6783@ut-sally.UUCP> Organization: IEEE P1003 Portable Operating System for Computer Environments Committee Lines: 25 Approved: jsq@sally.utexas.edu From: gwyn@brl.arpa (Douglas A. Gwyn) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 87 11:32:58 EST Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL), APG, MD. >From: hoptoad!gnu@lll-crg.arpa (John Gilmore) >... Is it going to be possible to sell a >POSIX system without UUCP? Ditto for "mail"... I don't see why these should be mandated when many sites use superior facilities in their place. Ditto for the spooler. >I suggest that "cpio" be excluded. Maybe they'll stop distributing >System V on byte-order-dependent cpio tapes if it becomes non-standard. SVR2.0 was distributed on portable-header cpio tapes. This is also true of the SVR3.0 source distribution. >I can't find "dircmp", "id", and a bunch of others in either V7 or 4.2 >so I suspect it is not very portable to assume their existence. You also can't find a decent Bourne shell in those releases. The standard should not be weakened unduly to permit existing inadequate facilities to be advertised as already conforming! Volume-Number: Volume 9, Number 14