Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!hplabs!hao!woods From: woods@hao.UUCP Newsgroups: news.misc,news.groups,rec.humor Subject: Re: New newsgroup requested: mod.flame Message-ID: <506@hao.UCAR.EDU> Date: Wed, 28-Jan-87 15:58:11 EST Article-I.D.: hao.506 Posted: Wed Jan 28 15:58:11 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 30-Jan-87 01:45:07 EST References: <639@briar.UUCP> <338@.altnet.UUCP> <684@ihuxo.UUCP> Reply-To: woods@hao.UUCP (Greg Woods) Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder CO Lines: 37 Xref: watmath news.misc:168 news.groups:250 rec.humor:698 In article <684@ihuxo.UUCP> hhm@ihuxo.UUCP (Mayo) writes: >> In article <639@briar.UUCP> rlw@briar.UUCP (Richard Wexelblat) writes: >> >I hereby propose and offer to moderate a new group: >> > >> > ************* >> > * mod.flame * >> > ************* >> > >I wholeheartedly support this. There was no excuse for killing net. >flame, no matter what was said there. Yes, there was. It was expensive and was threatening to kill the entire net by forcing some sites that pay most of the phone bills (including, but not limited to, ours) to consider leaving the net altogether. That *one* group of dubious value accounted for over 20% of all net traffic (and expense). After it's demise, our phone bill immediately dropped by 15%. >Maybe the bluenoses who killed >it in the first place would rather that people do physical violence >to each other rather than let off steam and get it off their chests. No, we'd rather that you mail your flames so that your site can share in the cost, instead of posting them to 100000+ readers, none of whom gives two shits what you think, and making it cost hundreds of times as much with zero extra benefit. I can firmly state that there is no way our site is going to pay to carry a group where people are encouraged by its very name and charter to be juvenile and abusive. I'm sure at least some of the other backbone sites agree. If you want to create the group and then set up your own links to pay for its distribution, I won't try to stop you, provided you can find anyone (including your company) willing to help pay for it. Good luck. --Greg -- UUCP: {hplabs, seismo, nbires, noao}!hao!woods CSNET: woods@ncar.csnet ARPA: woods%ncar@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA INTERNET: woods@hao.ucar.edu