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From: don@clunk.UUCP (Don McKillican)
Newsgroups: tor.news
Subject: Usenet map of Toronto
Message-ID: <106@clunk.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 21-Jan-87 08:50:46 EST
Article-I.D.: clunk.106
Posted: Wed Jan 21 08:50:46 1987
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I should like to thank the few people I have heard from so far with
corrections to the map I posted: rayan@utegc for the UofT stuff, and
emc@unicus and david@geac for corrections.  The changes will be 
incorporated into the next version.  Clunk had a uucp seizure this
past weekend, so if you've sent me something, I probably didn't receive
it: please try again.

Now to my critics :-).

In article <1504@lsuc.UUCP>, dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) writes:
> Hmm. Thanks, Don. I didn't even suggest anyone try doing
> a UUCP map, because (1) pathalias can give routings and (2)
> the map would be so complex. Your attempt is nice, but is
> (just for example) missing lsuc's connections to parkridge,
> hcr, nrcaer, toram, maccs and sickkids,

First of all, both your points are perfectly correct.  But I think there
is room for another point of view, too.  Pathalias is okay, but there are
a lot of sites which don't have it, don't use it, don't keep it up to date
or any combination of the above.  And there are even more users who don't
know how to use it.  And I personally happen to like a pictorial approach
better.  Besides, if pathalias tries to send me through lsuc, and I happen
to know that lsuc is (perish the thought!) down, then I can look on the
map for an alternate path.  Pathalias isn't good at that.

As to the sites you name, I actually had a reason for all of them.  You
will recall I said in my first posting that I wanted to include only "good"
paths (HOURLY or better).  I grant lsuc's connection to most of the sites
you name is DIRECT.  However, parkridge lists lsuc as EVENING, hcr lists
it as WEEKLY, maccs is DAILY/4, and toram and sickkids don't list lsuc at
all.  You see my dilemma.  You may say this just proves your point (and it
does :-)), but I think there is *some* method in my madness.  I should
possibly qualify "good" as meaning "HOURLY or better in both directions".

Oh and I did include your connection to ncraer.  Take heart :-).

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Don McKillican                                  seismo!mnetor!genat!clunk!don
                                     {utcs,utai,utzoo,watmath}!lsuc!clunk!don