Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!dave From: dave@lsuc.UUCP Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Canada suing the US for pollution? Message-ID: <1594@lsuc.UUCP> Date: Sun, 22-Feb-87 14:22:06 EST Article-I.D.: lsuc.1594 Posted: Sun Feb 22 14:22:06 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Feb-87 16:35:22 EST References: <8490@watrose.UUCP> <234@pembina.alberta.UUCP> Sender: root@lsuc.UUCP Reply-To: dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) Distribution: can Organization: Law Society of Upper Canada, Toronto Lines: 41 Summary: Have fun In article <234@pembina.alberta.UUCP> bjorn@alberta.UUCP writes: >Has anyone looked into the possibility of suing the US in >the US for damages resulting from pollutant originating in >the US? How about damages and controls? I know it's possible >for foreign entities to sue US entities (including the >government) in US courts. The law? US law of course. > >So does someone (Dave Sherman can you help?) know enough about >US pollution and/or liability legislation to answer these questions? Liability for tort tends to be a matter of common law in the U.S., as it is in Canada, though it's modified and refined by leigislation. You don't define "suing the US". I don't think any cause of action would lie against the US government, since the government isn't causing the pollution. In general, if a government undertakes to provide a certain measure of regulation or control, and then fails due to negligence, there may be a cause of action, but there's no liability on the part of government at any level for failing to legislate in a field. (If there are existing US pollution laws which are not being enforced, however, things would be a bit easier, though not much.) Suing specific US polluters would also be problematic. I can see some horrendous problems, some of them possibly insurmountable. Examples: - jurisdiction: what court? the offender is in the US, while the pollution complained of occurs in Canada - standing: who is the plaintiff? Individual Canadians? What are their damages? The Canadian government? Perhaps. - what is the tort which gives rise to the cause of action? - evidentiary problems: demonstrating to the satisfaction of a court the effects of a specific polluter on a specific area of Canada Don't bother giving answers to these; they're just examples of some of the problems. This type of complaint is something more appropriate to a non-legal body such as the World Court, perhaps, where issues of jurisdiction and standing must be agreed on *before* anyone actually gets to court. -- { seismo!mnetor cbosgd!utgpu watmath decvax!utcsri ihnp4!utzoo } !lsuc!dave