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Subject: Re: who should pay for education. sort of.
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Date: Sun, 8-Mar-87 04:02:33 EST
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Posted: Sun Mar  8 04:02:33 1987
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> >you voluntarily decide to get a brain tumour I shall try to see to it
> >that you are billed the full cost for treatment.
> 

As I said I am not going to waste time and space explaining the flaws
in your analogy. However I will point out they are more than just
the question of choice. 

> What about the 18 year old kid from a low-income blue collar
> background? What other *real* option does he have than getting a

Not getting a formal education is generally not as lethal as not
having a tumor removed.

> subsidized post-secondary education, thereby making himself indebted to
> the state, if he wants to make a better life for himself? Is his
> position really any less involuntary than that of the brain tumour
> patient? Neither one asked to be placed in their respective
> predicaments, yet, because of high costs, both would be required to
> seek government assistance in order to redress their situations.

He could do exactly what he will have to do now. Save up or take out
(and eventually pay off) loans.
 
> Also, just because John's plan would not initially consider medical
> subsidies in the same manner as education subsidies does not mean that
> future governments are required to do likewise. Since there would

ahhh the familiar conservative refrain...we better not do anything cause
good gosh who knows where it might end, why you give those pesky commies
an inch and they'll take a mile. Why let them socialize medicine and
next thing you know everybody'll be sick an there'll be damn lines a
mile long just to get a flu shot. You can't trust those pinkos boy I'll
tell you, better not to change a thing than give *them* a chance to get
their evil paws on things.......

sigh it never changes. how flexible.