Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!tektronix!sequent!mntgfx!franka From: franka@mntgfx.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: analysis of unknown data Message-ID: <564@franka.mntgfx.MENTOR.COM> Date: Wed, 11-Mar-87 13:38:32 EST Article-I.D.: franka.564 Posted: Wed Mar 11 13:38:32 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Mar-87 04:12:26 EST References: <5681@mimsy.UUCP> Reply-To: franka@mntgfx.UUCP (Frank A. Adrian) Organization: Mentor Graphics, Beaverton, OR Lines: 29 Keywords: statistics; pattern recognition; signal processing; content analysis In article <5681@mimsy.UUCP> dave@mimsy.UUCP (Dave Stoffel) writes: > > > What systematic methods and techniques would you apply to the > following problem? > > Determine the representation, organization, and content of a > "file" containing up to 156MB. There are no assumptions. The >methods and techniques applied must be automated (if not fully >automatic) and applicable to an unlimited supply of "files". Actually, there are several ways to approach this problem. It is a statement of finding out what is happenning inside a classical "black box". You can start by monitoring all requests and replies from the file, searching for patterns based on location of access and length of access. You can examine the bytes returning from the device to try to detect patterns. You can use a traffic analysis approach by find out what types of programs access this file at which times for a given purpose. You can go ask the NSA, CIA, and other intellegence agencies what they do when they try to crack a black box (though I doubt that they'd tell you :-). Finally, most boxes are not com- pletely black. In general, you can tell information by the location, size, etc. of a box. But unless the box is completely isolated (in which case, why are you all that interested in what it does?) you can always get some infor- mation, upon which you can make your own assumptions, can try experiments, and finally uncover the nature of an object. You might also try any good text on experimental methods to point you in the right direction. Frank Adrian Mentor Graphics, Inc.