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From: earleh@dartvax.UUCP (Earle R. Horton)
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Subject: Re: Question/Suggestion on C-s/C-q question . . .
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Date: Thu, 5-Mar-87 20:56:37 EST
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Posted: Thu Mar  5 20:56:37 1987
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Summary: ^^,^\ entirely possible with Macintosh

In article <8703042025.AA12061@ncifcrf.ncifcrf.uucp>, randy@seismo.CSS.GOV@ncifcrf.UUCP (Randy Smith) writes:
> 
> 
>   Does anyone have an idea how possible/easy it would be to define a
> key as a prefix for control?
...
>                                               Redefinition of C-^ and
> C-\ relies on your terminal being able to produce them, and my home pc
> (Macintosh) can't.  Suggestions/questions/comments/flames?
> 
> 					-- Randy Smith

Lest anyone get the idea that the Macintosh lacks the ability to generate
control characters, or is an unsatisfactory substitute for a "real" terminal
in any way, allow me to correct that impression.  Mr. Smith suffers from one
of two possible ailments, a) inferior terminal emulator, or b) forgot to read
the user's manual.  In order to avoid messing around with lisp code for hours,
I would recommend that you throw out your present terminal emulator and get a)
MacKermit, b) uw, or c) VersaTerm.  The first two are free and allow
generation of any character you can think of, even eight- bit jobs.  VersaTerm
provides the opportunity to spend money, but has more features, although the
programmer seems to have neglected eight-bit characters.  uw is nice for UNIX,
since you can run a server on the host that services 7 (!) pseudo ttys in
separate windows on the Macintosh.  Also, if you have BSD 4.3, window size
changes in uw are communicated to programs running on the host (!)  Also, uw
encodes ^S and ^Q into two-byte sequences, which are decoded by the server and
passed to emacs or whatever as ^S or ^Q.  This means that when running uw,
nobody can touch my ^S or ^Q but emacs!  MacKermit comes with a separate
utility program that allows mapping of keys to anything: strange control
characters, eight-bit characters, whole sentences, anything you want, and it
emulates a vt102.  uw emulates a vt52, Ann Arbor Ambassador (ANSI), adm31, or
tek 4012.  VersaTerm does VT100, VT52, and tek 4012 (4105 in the more
expensive version).  I would suggest this to Mr. Smith: throw away that
terminal program you are using if it can't do ^^ and ^\, and get a real one!

I realize that this article has very little to do with emacs, but I 
don't want people to go around thinking I can't generate all the
^\'s or ^^'s I want to with my Mac!