Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!topaz!hedrick From: hedrick@topaz.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sources.d Subject: Re: "Public Domain" YACC - AT&T Position on Proprietary and Copyrighted Software Message-ID: <9725@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Sat, 28-Feb-87 22:12:50 EST Article-I.D.: topaz.9725 Posted: Sat Feb 28 22:12:50 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Mar-87 17:06:36 EST References: <6662@alice.uUCp> <691@rayssd.RAY.COM> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 36 Keywords: yacc, copyright, proprietary, "corrective action" Companies are required by law to respond whenever they see someone publish copyrighted code improperly, or when they see someone claim that they no longer intend to enforce the copyright on something. If they see such things and fail to respond, they can lose their copyright. The statement In article <6662@alice.uUCp> fcp@alice.UUCP writes: > Please be aware we are tracing down a recent exposure of some of our > source code on this network, and we have, and will continue to take, > corrective action. was almost certainly written by one of their lawyers to be the minimum necessary to preserve their legal rights. The same sort of doctrine occurs with access to private areas. Rutgers closes off all of its on-campus streets one day a year, just to make sure they don't revert to being public. (They do this on Christmas day, by putting up a small sawhorse in the middle of the road saying "this road is closed".) I have seen other universities do this as well. ATT *has* to respond when their copyright is challenged, or they risk having Unix become public domain. I don't know of any software other than Unix whose source is as widely distributed. This may be due to the peculiar history of Unix or it may really be that ATT wants to be good guys. But whatever the reason, Unix source is available to so many people that ATT is very near the limits of believability when they claim it to be a trade secret. Many of the discussions on unix-wizards and other groups come very near the line, given that our license agreements require us to consider all knowledge of Unix internals as confidential information. I think ATT has been remarkably friendly in their enforcement of the Unix license provisions. It would be possible to push them into a corner where they would feel compelled to take a stricter interpretation. I have seen some comments recently in the discussion of the setuid bit that look remarkably like challenges to ATT to act. I think we would all be better off if we let sleeping dogs lie, and be understanding if now and then the dog opens an eye and growls when somebody steps on his tail.