Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-lcc!well!manx From: manx@well.UUCP (Jim Goodnow II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Amiga good for hacking?? Message-ID: <2729@well.UUCP> Date: Sun, 8-Mar-87 07:57:55 EST Article-I.D.: well.2729 Posted: Sun Mar 8 07:57:55 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 9-Mar-87 03:46:40 EST References: <2719@well.UUCP> <2705@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: manx@well.UUCP (Jim Goodnow II) Distribution: world Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 49 Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Amiga good for hacking?? Summary: Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged Expires: References: <2719@well.UUCP> <2705@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: Reply-To: manx@well.UUCP (Jim Goodnow II) Followup-To: Distribution: world Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Keywords: In article <2705@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (No one lives forever.) Meyer) writes: >In article <2719@well.UUCP> ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) writes: >>The Exec is the underlying and true core of the Amiga >>OS, and it's wonderful. The DOS was written in England by MetaComCo, and >>sucks rocks. ... > >Carefull, there - the stuff written in England is what provides all >the nice message passing, library primitives, resource allocation and >etc. that people like so much. ... > ... NO! NO! NO! The EXEC does the nice stuff. AmigaDOS _only_ handles the file system and the concept of processes. Let's give credit where credit is due. >>Also, get the >>MANX compiler. Lattice is cheaper, and that's because it's crud. MANX also >>comes with an assembler, Lattice doesn't. > >Hmm - gee, that sounds like a subjective statement. I'll just point >out that for porting code from Unix, Lattice is the better compiler to >have (last time I looked, MANX wouldn't even pass as a v7 C compiler, >much less anything modern). And that Lattice _does_ come with an >assembler. From that, you should be able to decide how much trust to >put in Mr. Schwab's compiler judgement. > > "If your compiler doesn't support structure assignment, get a > better compiler." - from comp.lang.c The Manx compilers have supported structure assignment since the very first compilers for the 8080 and the 6502 were shipped in 1982. When _was_ the last time you looked? Leo may be a bit zealous in his judgement, but on the other hand, he does spend a _lot_ of time programming the Amiga and has access to both compilers. Jim Goodnow II "I guess I need a trailer now ... "