Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!tektronix!tekgen!tekigm!tekigm2!wrd From: wrd@tekigm2.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit Subject: Re: DOS 2.5 vs. DOS 3.0 Message-ID: <1555@tekigm2.TEK.COM> Date: Fri, 13-Mar-87 11:59:03 EST Article-I.D.: tekigm2.1555 Posted: Fri Mar 13 11:59:03 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 14-Mar-87 15:24:50 EST References: <8703131002.AA18512@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or. Lines: 58 Summary: Best Atari DOS In article <8703131002.AA18512@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, Makey@LOGICON.ARPA (Jeff Makey) writes: . I am getting ready to buy a 1050 disk drive for my 800XL. One the . mail-order ads in ANALOG Computing says that they include DOS 2.5 with . the drive, another says they include DOS 3.0, and the rest are silent . on the topic. Some questions: . . 1. Does DOS always come with the 1050 or are those two firms actually . providing something special? . . 2. If I have a choice (and it seems that I do), which DOS should I get . and why? (I know that newer does not necessarily mean "better".) . . 3. Are there any other versions of DOS that I might want to use? . . 4. If I buy the drive that comes with DOS 2.5 (because it's cheaper), . can I *legally* make a copy of someone else's DOS 3.0 and use it? . . Thanks for the info. . . :: Jeff Makey . Makey@LOGICON.ARPA I would strongly recommend that you use DOS 2.5. It is the latest and greatest from Atari. It is an improved version of DOS 2.0S. DOS 3.0 is an aberration and is non-compatible with DOS 2.0/2.5. DOS 3.0 is more or less abandoned by Atari and most users. DOS 2.5 disks have a file on them that will translate DOS 3.0 file to DOS 2.5/2.0S. There once was a DOS 2.5D for an 815 double density drive -- neither the drive nor the software was ever available to the public. [Yes, I know that some were built and did get out, but Atari essentially yanked the plug before public sales happened.] However, several companies took DOS 2.0D and modified it for commercial purposes. I believe that this is the origin of both MYDOS and SpartaDOS. Both are available by themselves as well as with various upgrade kits, etc. Both allow for mulitiple disk drives (5.25 and 3.5) and hard disks. I personally have only tried MYDOS -- it would not run ANTIC magazine' disks, so I did not try to use it further and stuck with DOS 2.5. However, if you want a truly double density disk drive, you must use either MYDOS or SpartaDOS. (As opposed to the so called double density of the 1050, which is really an enhanced density, more like 1 1/2 density). Personally I stick to straight vanilla 1050 drives, they can be upgraded to true double density, however, with the USDoubler (which also includes SpartaDOS, I think.) And if you upgrade to 256k with a Newell upgrade, you get MYDOS free. CDYoung Associates (CDY anyway) sells various software and hardware updates. J Sangster will probably tell you about them. To answer you last question, some form of Atari DOS comes with every 1050, they are not including something extra. 1050 drives first came with DOS 3.0, newer ones come with DOS 2.5. (Very early ones may have come with DOS 2.0S.) Finally, between DOS 3.0 and DOS 2.5, another version was created by the pre-Tramiel Atari Inc. (as opposed to Atari Corp.) which was called DOS 4.0. It is available from ANTIC magazine, I am not familar with it except to know that it was being developed for several new Atari computers that were stillborn (i.e. they died before being released, similar to the 815 dd). I think that 4.0 was for the 1450XLD model. Other models not released were the 1400XL and 1600XL, although the latter was not even ever announced to the best of my knowledge. Both the 1400XL and the 1450XLD were announced and advertised, but still died. --Bill--