Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watcgl!drforsey From: drforsey@watcgl.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Multitasking discussion Message-ID: <640@watcgl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Feb-87 12:40:52 EST Article-I.D.: watcgl.640 Posted: Mon Feb 23 12:40:52 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Feb-87 01:09:59 EST References: <8702131709.AA28497@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> <1588@lsuc.UUCP> Reply-To: drforsey@watcgl.UUCP (Dave Forsey) Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 27 >4. Any other worthwhile approach? NEWS by Sun--I can't see any reason >to favour this over X-Windows at this point. Sun claims that it's a >superset of X-Windows. If this is so, then fine, I don't see any reason >to think we couldn't upgrade it to NEWS later if we do X-Windows now. NeWs is an extensible window manager, you can define whatever protocol you like to a window by downloading code to the window manager (in Postscript). NeWS runs a postscript interpreter and uses multiple "light-wieght" tasks (processes) and message passing internally. This is why NeWS might be called a "superset" of X. How one would upgrade an X-system to NeWS is unclear. X is very painful to use over slower communications lines. NeWS has internally been ported to an Atari-ST and has reasonable performance over a 9600 baud line. What struck me as important about NeWS is that it is based on a high- level imaging model. It is not just a windowing package. Personally i find X to be rather massive and inelegant. All this is from a talk Gosling (yes the same one as emacs) gave at UCSC last fall. Last i heard it was coming out in march. US$1000 to universities including source. Apparently sun wants to make the protocols public and have "reasonable" licensing aggreements. Dave Forsey Computer Graphics Laboratory University of Waterloo