Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!cbatt!cwruecmp!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: MicroSoft Windows Message-ID: <388@neoucom.UUCP> Date: Wed, 25-Feb-87 11:30:53 EST Article-I.D.: neoucom.388 Posted: Wed Feb 25 11:30:53 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Feb-87 22:20:39 EST References: <75800026@uiucdcsp> <2228@sci.UUCP> Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 37 Summary: I hate windows too. Can you spell s--l--o--w? Sure, I knew uou could. I've run windows on the 8 MHz AT compat. in my office and was real disappointed in how slow it is. I've also got GEM (forget the version, but it's pretty old) and it is about twice the speed of windows. My main gripe about GEM is that the daggone menus stay dropped down after you move the mouse off of them (this must have something to do with the Apple Co. look&feel crap). The draw and paint utilites that are included with GEM are miles ahead of the junk that microsoft plams off with windows. For instance, GEM paint is in full living color on an EGA card, while windows paint is primitive (not even full screen) b&w. I have what I assume is a pretty new version of windows, that I've only had for about a month (ver 1.03). I've also seen Ventura Publisher running in GEM on an XT and it was still tolerably fast. I don't think you could get away with it in windows, as the intrinsic overhead from windows is much greater. GEM is also more forgiving about what it will let you run. For instance, I can run windows from inside of GEM. Windows will not let me run GEM from inside of windows. Windows is winning out becuase microsoft has a giant advertising budget, and is providing a lot of help (albeit expensive) help to developers. DR, on the other hand, is not agressively pushing GEM. DR also has taken a lot of bad rap for concurrent DOS, etc. lately which is overshowing the niceness of GEM. Oh well... --Bill Bill Mayhew Division of Basic Medical Sciences Northeastern Ohio Universities' College of Med. Rootstown, OH 44272 USA phone: 216-325-2511 (wtm@neoucom.UUCP ...!cbatt!neoucom!wtm)