Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!lll-lcc!seismo!mcvax!enea!erix!robert From: robert@erix.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: MicroSoft Windows Message-ID: <1312@erix.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Mar-87 06:00:44 EST Article-I.D.: erix.1312 Posted: Mon Mar 2 06:00:44 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Mar-87 20:28:01 EST References: <75800026@uiucdcsp> <2228@sci.UUCP> <388@neoucom.UUCP> Reply-To: robert@erix.UUCP (Robert Virding) Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden Lines: 33 In article <388@neoucom.UUCP> wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) writes: > >Can you spell s--l--o--w? Sure, I knew uou could. I've run >windows on the 8 MHz AT compat. in my office and was real >disappointed in how slow it is. I've also got GEM (forget the >version, but it's pretty old) and it is about twice the speed of >windows. My main gripe about GEM is that the daggone menus stay >dropped down after you move the mouse off of them (this must have >something to do with the Apple Co. look&feel crap). The draw and >paint utilites that are included with GEM are miles ahead of the >junk that microsoft plams off with windows. For instance, GEM >paint is in full living color on an EGA card, while windows paint >is primitive (not even full screen) b&w. Yes, and some of the MS software is pretty buggy. Their WRITE can't handle fonts correctly and doesn't always show correctly on the screen what comes out on a printer, especially indentation. I talked to a representative here in Sweden and they consider it "free" software so they don't concentrate on it. They will be coming out with more stuff, a new WRITE and a DRAW, which will be much (?) better but that will cost money. >GEM is also more forgiving about what it will let you run. For >instance, I can run windows from inside of GEM. Windows will not >let me run GEM from inside of windows. This is true. I use GEM as a top level DOS interface. Does anyone know if there is a better WRITE for GEM, one that can handle different size fonts and such? This is what forces me to use MS Windows. Robert Virding @ Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm UUCP: {decvax,philabs,seismo}!mcvax!enea!erix!robert