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From: rps@homxc.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: MicroSoft Windows
Message-ID: <125@homxc.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 5-Mar-87 16:00:50 EST
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Posted: Thu Mar  5 16:00:50 1987
Date-Received: Sat, 7-Mar-87 01:59:46 EST
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Summary: Comments on GEM

In article <1987Mar4.135307.22520@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu>, gervers@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu (M. Gervers) writes:

(various comments on how GEM DRAW is better than MS Windows Paint)

> 
> I have to agree, at one point, I had to make GEM and WINDOWS work on
> a sanyo mbc 555[vb] and had a chance to compare the two, In terms of
> graphics, GEM DRAW is miles ahead of Windows Paint, (However, DRAW
> is I believe, vector based, and PAINT is pixels oriented).

I have worked with Micrografix Windows Draw extensively (it is the best
drawing package available for MS windows yet), it is vector based just
like GEM DRAW PLUS (they do not make GEM Draw anymore).  GEM DRAW PLUS 
is much easier to use however, it has automatic arrow heads on lines,
and most important, the VDI printer driver for dotmatrix printers is
fantastic!  With the driver that comes with Windows Draw you would be
better off holding a piece of paper up to the screen and tracing it.

> 
> The positioning of windows is also more intuitive in GEM than WINDOWS,
> in WINDOWS, you CANNOT place a window on top of another window, they
> are always side by side.  GEM however, lets you open up to 8 windows.

 Because of the settlement with Apple (!!#$%!**$) GEM is now restricted
 to having only 2 immovable windows on the desktop and no trashcan.  
 GEM DRAW PLUS can have two side by side windows of any rectangular
 shape, overlap etc.  It can copy between them.

> 
> I don't think that GEM is a lot faster than WINDOWS though, everytime
> you get out of an APPlication, GEMDESK is automatically reloaded and
> that takes time.
> 
> indra laksono
> DEEDS PROJECT
> 
> Now the real question.  Does Ventura Publisher work with LASERJET + ?

GEM DRAW PLUS has the option of running without the Desktop.

I just wish DRI would get behind this product 100%.  If they would bring
out a word processor with different fonts and a spelling checker (the current
GEM WRITE is just straight word processing with formatting, handles 
pictures from DRAW or PAINT though), plus give GEM DRAW the ability to
import ascii text, plus make it so you could have GEM WRITE open in one
half the screen and GEM DRAW PLUS open in another, plus a GEM based 
communications program, I WOULD BUY THE WHOLE PACKAGE!!!!!

Russ Sharples
homxc!rps