Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!munnari!moncskermit!goanna!yabbie!rcopm From: rcopm@yabbie.rmit.oz (Paul Menon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Mac II (really SE: A letdown?) Message-ID: <425@yabbie.rmit.oz> Date: Sat, 7-Mar-87 20:11:29 EST Article-I.D.: yabbie.425 Posted: Sat Mar 7 20:11:29 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 9-Mar-87 03:32:33 EST References: <422@yabbie.rmit.oz> Organization: RMIT Comm & Elec Eng, Melbourne, Australia. Lines: 59 Since my previous posting concerning the colo(u)r capabilities of the Mac, numerous replies have appeared to the original. Apologies if my query appeared after the discussion was over - but it's not my fault if you lot are so far away from the centre of the universe :-). Concerning the SE, [[*IGNITE*]] * Why wasn't the SE based on the 68020? [Still working on the ROM/Finder/System? In essence, still working on the Mac II] * Is it true that there are 2 clock rates available on the SE? (8 and 16Mhz) [If so then one assumes this is for a 68020. By 3rd parties or Apple or Both] * How wide is the Data Path on the SE [16 bits?] What I am getting down to is... Did Apple intend the SE to be a 68020 machine in the first place? Are we going to see an SE+, with the obvious upgrade path. [Please don't have the same logic board if it currently has a 16 Bit Data Path]. Was Apple pressured into getting the SE (or for that matter - any new machine) out? Or this another money making ploy. [[*DOUSE*]] My own feeling [hope] is that they were pressured into getting something out - not by competition (there isn't any), but by... * Us. * Miscalculating the 68k/68020 changeover. (ROM's, logic board, whatever) This isn't so much a flame - it is disappointment in sticking with a CPU from the 70's. Sure it can hold it's ground with rivals, but there is something better - much better! Maybe the corporate sector don't need brute strengh, but there are a few of us who cannot afford a Mac II yet still want a bit more grunt. I guess the money is in business eh? "Apples Follow Gravity" Issac Newton (1642-1727). "Gravity Let's You Down" Talking Heads. (1970's - 1980's - ...) Paul Menon. Dept of Communication & Electronic Engineering, Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, 124 Latrobe St, Melbourne, 3000, Australia ACSnet: rcopm@yabbie UUCP: ...!seismo!munnari!yabbie.rmit.oz!rcopm CSNET: rcopm@yabbie.rmit.oz ARPA: rcopm%yabbie.rmit.oz@seismo BITNET: rcopm%yabbie.rmit.oz@CSNET-RELAY PHONE: +61 3 660 2619.