Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!uwvax!husc6!necntc!mit-eddie!ll-xn!cit-vax!tybalt.caltech.edu!wetter From: wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Mac II (really SE: A letdown?) Message-ID: <2023@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Date: Thu, 12-Mar-87 15:48:55 EST Article-I.D.: cit-vax.2023 Posted: Thu Mar 12 15:48:55 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Mar-87 21:43:26 EST References: <422@yabbie.rmit.oz> <425@yabbie.rmit.oz> <5083@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> <748@korppi.tut.UUCP> Sender: news@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu Reply-To: wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu.UUCP (Pierce T. Wetter) Organization: Calfornia Institute of Technology Lines: 42 A/UX is supposed to be sysV with 4.3bds enhancements. In addition A/UX is able to run (supposedly) without needing a system manager to maintain it. (hereafter referred to as Lucifer incarnate). Last Summer I was forced to bring up XENIX on an AT (ms-xenix. Which niether IBM or MS supports) and it would get extremly upset if it was turned off, the power failed etc. In addition running both DOS and XENIX on the same machine (DOS on different disk) gruaduall toasts the XENIX system. Apple providing more to a less guru-oriented environmen t needs to provide a less cumbersome implementation. Hence there will supp. be many utilties to perform the common tasks done by a system manager. Apple also will probably re-write the docs for unix so they are readable by human beings. In addition since apple requires a PMMU they will avoid alot of the problems other implementations of UNIX have (HP-UX does its memory management by swapping memory on and off of disk. 2megs for a single user system. 7megs if you are using Hp-windows. 2k for a 20meg hp hard-disk. Yech.) In short don't put down A/UX until you try it. (I've only read the specs.) Just because it isn't 4.3bsd doesn't mean it isn't a good (or bad) implemetation 4.1 bsd isn't sys V either. Give it a chance. Pierce Wetter RULES OF EATING -- THE BRONX DIETER'S CREED 1. Never eat on an empty stomach. 2. Never leave the table hungry. 3. When traveling, never leave a country hungry. 4. Enjoy your food. 5. Enjoy your companion's food. 6. Really taste your food. It may take several portions to accomplish this, especially if subtly seasoned. 7. Really feel your food. Texture is important. Compare, for example, the texture of a turnip to that of a brownie. Which feels better against your cheeks? 8. Never eat between snacks, unless it's a meal. 9. Don't feel you must finish everything on your plate. You can always eat it later. 10. Avoid any wine with a childproof cap. 11. Avoid blue food. -- Richard Smit, "The Bronx Diet" -------------------------------------------- wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu --------------------------------------------