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From: jww@sdcsvax.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Mac II (really SE: A letdown?)
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Date: Thu, 12-Mar-87 23:56:46 EST
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Posted: Thu Mar 12 23:56:46 1987
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In article <748@korppi.tut.UUCP>, jh@tut.UUCP (Juha Hein{nen) writes:
> In article <5083@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> zrm@eddie.MIT.EDU (Zigurd R. Mednieks) writes:
> >The Macintosh II will be fierce competeition for everyone except Sun
> >(because Sun customers want Sun's Unix, not some "with Berkeley
> >enhancements" bogosity).
> 
> This is exactly the point.  I was disappointed that Apple chose to
> ignore the computer science research community, majority of which
> wants real 4.xbsd.

What exactly does this UNIX bigotry mean?  As someone who has used
both 4.2/4.3 and System V, and generally prefers 4.x, I still get
curious when someone proclaims one to be much better than the other.

System V has a better organized and more rational library.
BSD's only advantages are in networking, but if you're not using
them, what does it matter.

Clearly csh and vi are vastly superior (I haven't used ksh)
and some of the other tools.  I can't speak for 4.3, but make
on V is much better than 4.2.

However, the two are converging.  BSD 4.3 includes at least 10
new library calls from System V that weren't in 4.2.
Of course, there are bureaucrats who mandate System V and
university research types who sneer at anything but pure BSD,
but such prejudices are generally born of ignorance.

Besides, I hope to god that A/UX has a far better editor and
much more powerful shell interface than either one.  If not,
it won't be a Mac.
-- 
	Joel West
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