Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!brl-adm!news From: news@brl-adm.ARPA (The News System ) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: novice netusers Message-ID: <4752@brl-adm.ARPA> Date: Thu, 5-Mar-87 11:51:17 EST Article-I.D.: brl-adm.4752 Posted: Thu Mar 5 11:51:17 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Mar-87 05:23:07 EST Lines: 42 >> I don't mean to be nasty but can't something be done to people >>who send messages like this: >> [request to be removed from mailing list follows] > >No. Education. Digesting maybe. Not really. Sending a gripe to the >whole list just doubles the noise however (this triples it!) Perhaps >administrative issues should be sent to "unix-wizard-request". The following is a suggestion not a gripe (limited noise injection). Education yes! Where is he/she to get the requisite education? Unless a novice net user is lucky enough to have a very conciencious system administrator at his/her site the education is very haphazard. Many new users enter the networking arena without formal education in its proper use. Armed with only a net address and a mail program they attempt to use a system containing some nasty monsters that snap and growl at the networking faux pas. I suggest that there be a short daily posting which points to a clearing house for novice users. The novice (and some of the old timers) need to learn networking techniques, network manners, and network ideosyncracies. This is not a problem unique to this mail group. Not all readers of "unix-wizards" are networking wizards (yet). I consider myself in the novice category. My scars are a persistent reminder. Please contact me if you have suggestions about the nature of the clearing house or have information that you would like to submit to such a mechanism. Flame on this if you will, but the problem will not go away by itself. D.A.R.Y.L. ARPANET: daryl@mitre-gateway.arpa or daryl@gateway.mitre.org Telephone: (703) 883-7278 U.S. Mail: Daryl Crandall The MITRE Corporation Mailstop W-429 1820 Dolley Madison Blvd. McLean, VA 22102