Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!sei.cmu.edu!pdb From: pdb@sei.cmu.edu.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards Subject: System V letting random users chown Message-ID: <713@aw.sei.cmu.edu.sei.cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 15-Mar-87 02:14:49 EST Article-I.D.: aw.713 Posted: Sun Mar 15 02:14:49 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Mar-87 14:02:43 EST Sender: netnews@sei.cmu.edu Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, SEI, Pgh, Pa Lines: 18 Xref: utgpu comp.unix.questions:1379 comp.unix.wizards:1396 Hmm...looks like my ignorance of the "offical" AT&T Unixes is showing. But then again, I use real Unix, not System V :-). Anyway, if System V clears the 6000 bits of the file protection, then the set-uid glitch is a non-issue, but opens up a bunch of other problems. I, for one, wouldn't want there to be any way for a non-root user to make it look like I created some random file (like, for instance, writing a program to do some anti-social thing like a mkdir/chdir loop, moving it into /usr/tmp, and chowning it to me). Is there any way to track the original creator of a file? For files that need to be accessed by groups of people, the BSD group list concept really works much better (does Sys V have an analog to this?) And speaking of "official" AT&T Unix, does anyone know if they ever plan to make Eighth Edition Unix available outside of AT&T? --Pat.