Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!NUHUB.ACS.NORTHEASTERN.EDU!FITZ From: FITZ@NUHUB.ACS.NORTHEASTERN.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.computers.vax Subject: Does this policy affect security? Message-ID: <8702031124.AA21387@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sun, 1-Feb-87 19:09:00 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8702031124.AA21387 Posted: Sun Feb 1 19:09:00 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Feb-87 02:20:18 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 32 Approved: info-vax@sri-kl.arpa Jim Murawski of Carnegie Mellon University objects to a policy decision made by his university admministration that the contents of the Info-Vax mailing list be available to all members of the University community. Let us ask both "Why would they do such a thing?" and "Why should Mr. Murawski object?" Having worked for the Smithsonian Institution for many years, I have long taken as a personal guideline the words of James Smithson in his 1829 bequest to "the United States of America, to found at Washington under the name of the Smithsonian Institution, an Establishment for the increase & diffusion of knowledge among men." These are words it would do well for everyone responsible for the guidance of a university to keep in mind. In so far as the Info-Vax mailing list can contribute to the "increase and diffusion of knowledge" it is proper, in this light, that it be available as it is at CMU. Murawski is worried about security implications of this action. First, it is at least rare that when security matters appear on the mailing list that the recipe for taking advantage of a weakness is disclosed. Far more important, at least from the perspective of Northeastern, is that many of our best students spend months on coop at DEC. They seem to have access not only to "water cooler scuttlebut", but to company confidential documents and even SPRs. I consider any comfort from keeping this list from them while they are on campus delusiory. I doubt that such attempts at secrecy will help at all. There are, as we see it, much better reasons for publishing than not. -Robert J. FitzPatrick -Academic Computing Services -Northeastern University -Boston MA