Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!CERNVM.BITNET!JCV From: JCV@CERNVM.BITNET.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.computers.vax Subject: RE: VMS RAM disk Message-ID: <8702140431.AA06118@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 13-Feb-87 23:31:40 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8702140431.AA06118 Posted: Fri Feb 13 23:31:40 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 14-Feb-87 14:17:54 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 35 Approved: info-vax@sri-kl.arpa Let's get some things straitened out about the VAX RAM disk which has been the subject of so much talk lately. This has nothing to do with the usual RAM disks of PCs etc, which have more memory in RAM than on disk and slow disk access speeds. It would of course be madness to use such a thing on a VAX during usual operations. To save disk I/Os on frequently used images, as somebody suggested, VMS has the feature of global sections (images installed /SHARED); you can see this effect by looking at the global valid fault rate (in MONITOR). However, there is one situation in which you would like to be able to run the system without a system disk: when running standalone backup. Usually, BACKUP will page to what it thinks is a system disk, but really is either the console device (floppy or TU58) or, on uVAXes, a TK50. In latter case, in fact, it just CANNOT page - so a way out has to be found. And this way out consists of using a part of nonpaged pool as a RAM disk, which is loaded during system startup, and turning off system paging (via a SYSGEN parameter). The whole mechanism is explained in the comments contained in - yes, you guessed right - SYS$UPDATE:STABACKIT.COM. And, well - it even contains in-line the 40-line MACRO programm to initialize the disk to a specified size of blocks (pool permitting)! So, as you can see, it pays to have a look at the stuff DEC supplies you with every system! We will try another application of this nice feature in the future: Every single-disk 750 user has the problem of waiting at least one hour till standalone BACKUP has started from the TU58s if you want to restore your disk (to remove fragmentation). It should be possible to build a TK50-like kit on your disk which you can boot in a few seconds and then use it to overwrite just that disk! --- Jan Vorbrueggen