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Date: Sat, 14-Feb-87 10:03:40 EST
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About this question of students and security of this list.
I think students should not have access even some members of staff
although i carnt offer any ideas of inforcing this.
Think about the poor person who has just got a vax and has be declared
systems manager (to which he has no knowledge of vms) Yes this does happen
well in our university it does. His bosses exspect him to have it installed and working
working in a few weeks. Should we not offer as much support as possible to this
person by limiting peoples access to this list. We all make mistakes when we
first get a new machine (security wise protection) And its the classic case
of "The New Toy" people want it to be working in a flash.

So the moral of this story is.....

Think back when you first met VMS. (as a Sys_Admin) would you want a student
knowing more than you??????


                              Martin Ogden
                            Systems Manager
                         Electrical Engineering

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Post:     Martin Ogden, University of Salford Electrical Engineering.

My views have nothing what so ever to do with my employers.
And 98% of what I say is normaly daft.
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A bird can fly but a fly carnt bird.
                                       (Somebody as == nutty as me!)

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