Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!ucbvax!ufl.CSNET!esj From: esj@ufl.CSNET.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.computers.vax Subject: (none) Message-ID: <8702151825.AA01209@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sun, 15-Feb-87 11:16:00 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8702151825.AA01209 Posted: Sun Feb 15 11:16:00 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Feb-87 22:45:25 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 25 Approved: info-vax@sri-kl.arpa > From: EE101%sysa.salford.ac.uk@cs.ucl.ac.uk ... >So the moral of this story is..... >Think back when you first met VMS. (as a Sys_Admin) would you want a student >knowing more than you?????? I am a student and a 'assistant' system manager of a vax750. Let me give you a hint as to how a new vax system manager could deal with a knowledgeable student. HIRE HIM/HER. Most of us will work slave hours for slave wages, just to have a vax to take care of. The benifits of this are patently obvious. You get someone with 'dangerous' (:->) knowledge working for you instead of against you. This student will also probably know any other student who might be a potential problem for your system, and he/she will probably know the tricks that malicious students will use. (Around here WORD-OF-MOUTH is much more dangerous then INFO-VAX. And the hackers dont post WORD-OF-MOUTH where system administrators can read it.) Its a wonderful insurence policy, and you educate a student (and yourself) along the way. Who knows, you might even learn !not! to think of university computing as a US vs. THEM situation. _________________________________________________________________ In Real Life: UUCP: ..!akgua!ufcsv!esj rfc733'ish: esj%ufl.edu@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA Eric S. Johnson II rfc822: esj@ufl.edu 1824 NW 3rd Pl. Apt# 11 -or- esj%ufl.edu@relay.cs.net Gainesville Fl. 32603 Ma-Bell-Net: (904)-373-6015