Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!ucbvax!sdcsvax!darrell From: darrell@sdcsvax.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.os Subject: Re: Why no "real" distributed systems? Message-ID: <2739@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> Date: Wed, 18-Feb-87 16:22:03 EST Article-I.D.: sdcsvax.2739 Posted: Wed Feb 18 16:22:03 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Feb-87 22:05:00 EST Sender: darrell@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. Lines: 40 Approved: mod-os@sdcsvax.uucp Joe Pato makes a case for distributed systems based on Tanenbaum's recent ACM CS survey. The problem, again, is degree of coupling. Consider another, recent text: %A M. Ajmone Marsan %A G. Balbo %A G. Conte %T Performance Models of Multiprocessor Systems %S Computer Systems Series %I MIT Press %D 1986 %K Book, text, Torino Multiprocessor, TOMP, Markov modeling, queueing network models, MVA, Stochastic Petri Networks, common memory, shared memory, bus architectures, %X As pointed out by the authors, the book does not cover more advanced multiprocessor interconnection networks (MINs). Marsan, et al. put distributed systems into three classes (pp. 101): computer networks, multiprocessors, and `special' parallel machines (quotes are mine). I find it hard to try and separate some of these issues when I maintain The Parallel Processing (multiprocessor/distributed processing) Bibliography [ACM CAN, March 1985]. Many of the issues are identical, only the timing is off to protect the names of the innocent. Note: I am not recommending this book, only that a diversity of definitions exist including Philip Enslow's book, Kuck's papers, Satyanarayanan's book, numerous IEEE Tutorials and so forth. Distributed systems should be for than just file systems (Newcastle, Clusters, LOCUS, etc.). Additionally, it appears the application is also important: Tandem, Parallel, Stratus, 3B20Ds, etc. etc. have different topology requirements than follow-ons to Crays, etc. From the Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers: --eugene miya NASA Ames Research Center eugene@ames-aurora.ARPA "You trust the `reply' command with all those different mailers out there?" "Send mail, avoid follow-ups. If enough, I'll summarize." {hplabs,hao,nike,ihnp4,decwrl,allegra,tektronix,menlo70}!ames!aurora!eugene