Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!ISI.EDU!braden From: braden@ISI.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: ICMP messages Message-ID: <8702241636.AA00792@braden.isi.edu> Date: Tue, 24-Feb-87 11:36:12 EST Article-I.D.: braden.8702241636.AA00792 Posted: Tue Feb 24 11:36:12 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Feb-87 01:32:10 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 13 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa Chris, All the present and proposed "transaction" protocols (Birrell&Nelson, VMTP, SEP, TTP, etc.) being discussed in the End2end Taskforce do in fact depend upon the Delta-T concept (which you have so cogently summarized) to avoid an initial handshake. Delta-T was never "popular", since it was implemented only at LBL; it is much less well known in our field than it deserves. Dick Watson thought through the consequences of his assumptions more thoroughly than we often do, and his papers are recommended reading for anyone new to the protocol design field. Bob Braden