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From: Mills@UDEL.EDU.UUCP
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Subject: Re:  ICMP messages
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Date: Wed, 25-Feb-87 12:21:39 EST
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Posted: Wed Feb 25 12:21:39 1987
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Phil,

While not planting feet securely in either camp (you both have valid
points), it's amazing how your perspective changes when operating a
dinky Ethernet between an ARPANET gateway and another gateway to a vast
swamp and when all paths to that swamp have died for a week. You start
searching for words like "M16 effect" to describe the carnage
as the pileup of multiple j-random hosts try to slosh mail across the
dink. Howcum that mail got as far as the dink? Well, turns out the
swamp in question had no way to declare itself down. Jack Haverty, where
are you when we need you? Grumble-mumble and back to work.

Dave