Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!im4u!ut-sally!std-unix From: std-unix@ut-sally.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.std.unix Subject: Re: 1003.2 Command Groups Message-ID: <7044@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Sun, 1-Feb-87 16:32:16 EST Article-I.D.: ut-sally.7044 Posted: Sun Feb 1 16:32:16 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 3-Feb-87 04:16:47 EST References: <6710@ut-sally.UUCP> <6783@ut-sally.UUCP> <6818@ut-sally.UUCP> <6978@ut-sally.UUCP> <7002@ut-sally.UUCP> Sender: std-unix@ut-sally.UUCP Organization: AT&T Medical Information Systems, Columbus Lines: 30 Approved: jsq@sally.utexas.edu As far as I am aware, the details of the UUCP protocol are not considered a trade secret by AT&T, although the UNIX software that implements that protocol certainly is. I think it's more a matter of nobody taking the time to write it down. I saw a detailed description of the UUCP protocol go by on the comp.mail.uucp newsgroup the other day. It appeared to be deduced from "black box" treatment, except that the "g" protocol document was written by its author: Greg Chesson. (I don't know the release status of that document, only that it seems to be generally available, since it was posted to Usenet by someone who is not associated with AT&T.) In any case, the protocol evidently IS documented, and this documentation is generally available. If there is interest in standardizing UUCP, I doubt AT&T will object, and their representatives on the POSIX committee will have every opportunity to do so if I'm wrong. Personally, I feel that UUCP ought to be standardized, but not as part of the base system, but as an optional extension. I think that market demands will be sufficient to require most vendors to support it, but they will be unable to without an appropriate standard unless they use AT&T derived code. We may feel that UUCP will be dead in a few years, but I seem to recall that Mike Lesk described UUCP as a quick kludge to get us by until we all had real networks (and he said this in 1978.) Mark Volume-Number: Volume 9, Number 44