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From: cetron@utah-cs.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.sources.games
Subject: Re: MORIA 4.8 availability
Message-ID: <4356@utah-cs.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 4-Mar-87 12:35:31 EST
Article-I.D.: utah-cs.4356
Posted: Wed Mar  4 12:35:31 1987
Date-Received: Fri, 6-Mar-87 07:27:02 EST
References: <2672@jade.BERKELEY.EDU>
Reply-To: cetron@utah-cs.UUCP (Edward J Cetron)
Organization: Center for Engineering Design, Univ of Utah
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In article <2672@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> jason@violet.berkeley.edu(Jason Venner) writes:
>
>I posted a notice about moria source being available via anonymous ftp
>from ucb jade.berkeley.edu.
>
>   I do not have access to VMS machines on bitnet.
>   VMS dump-tapes images do not ftp correctly (as far as I know)
>   I will not make them available via bitnet or Email,  I do not have
>          ^^^
>   Why don't one of you vms/bitnet wizards or uucp fans arrange to
>   have a copy available via those means.  I do not have the time
>   to deal with it.

	First of all, thanks to jason for putting it out for ftp ('though
my ftp is so bad i still haven't gotten it all - sigh)

	second, vms backup tapes CAN be binary ftp'd just fine: with the caveat
that you must convert to 512 byte blocks first, and then back out to the vms
backup size.  I have several programs to do this if anyone is interested.

	Third, and most important, I DID consider making it available for
bitnet access except for the size....turns out that sending a file of this
size over bitnet will clog the bitnet for days to come (and our downstream
folks will send me hate mail for a month).  The last time I sent something
that size I had to break it up into several small files (each less than
75K) and send them one every 3-6 hours.... and I still got some flames.....
Face it, for large files of this type, bitnet just doesn't work like the
arpanet.....

-ed cetron
cetron@cs.utah.arpa
cetron@utahcc.bitnet