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From: kre@munnari.UUCP
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Subject: Re: A minor gripe with moderated group handling
Message-ID: <1426@munnari.oz>
Date: Tue, 17-Feb-87 08:29:56 EST
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Posted: Tue Feb 17 08:29:56 1987
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Organization: Comp Sci, Melbourne Uni, Australia
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In article <283@gaia.UUCP>, jon@gaia.UUCP (Jonathan Corbet) writes:
> The problem is that the subject line of the generated mail message is
> something along the lines of "submission for mod-computers-vax".  This,
> coupled with the fact that a number of "moderated" groups are, in fact,
> not moderated, makes for some aggravation.
> 
> I see two ways that this could be deal with this.  One would be to just have
> the subject line of the generated mail message be the real subject of the
> posting.

This is probably how it should be done, I suspect that the "submission for"
was probably an attempt to make life easier for the moderators (the mail
they receive would make it clear just what this is) but I suspect that in
practice it really makes life more difficult, as the moderator has even
more editing to do, and its likely to be harder to automate.

> The other is to have a new entry for the "moderated"
> field in the active file which would mark groups that are not moderated,
> but which do need to be posted to through a mail message.

This isn't necessary - the "moderated groups that aren't moderated"
should simply be marked as unmoderated, with a 2 way gateway to the
mailing list.  That's done for a lot of other lists, it can certainly
be done for mod.computers.vax and the few others in this category.
These groups became "moderated" only out of an accident of history.

I believe that this is actually going to happen sometime soon, Erik,
care to give a time guestimate?  To cope with sites still running
older netnews versions, and in line with the general renaming, the
group names will change at the same time.

Robert Elz		seismo!munnari!kre  kre%munnari.oz@seismo.css.gov